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Mmmhmm. Because people coming back to life, a pregnant virgin, talking animals, Unicorns, with no explanation except “It’s true” makes perfect sense, correct?
& how is God ALWAYS been there. That is impossible, the only it is possible is through some kind of “magical time travel” which he would still have to be doing today. Unless of course, you don’t understand what the word infinity means.
That’s a wonderful straw man argument you got there. I would dare you to show me one place I claim to believe in unicorns or talking animals et al. on this blog, but I’m sure that would require reading skills beyond your usual level.
” how is God ALWAYS been there. That is impossible, ” Generally speaking most understanding of God places God outside of the dimension of time. It’s not that God is simply infinite in time it’s that God is outside the very concept of time.
I’d like to respond to your time travel comment, but quite frankly I don’t have the needed quantities of LSD to even begin to understand that line of…of…well ‘thought’ isn’t the right word…that line of rambling nonsense.
I do understand exactly what the word infinity means…but please explain to me what you think it means. I need a laugh.
1) Calling Atheism a belief is like calling baldness a hair color. No two atheists believe the same thing. Atheism is, simply put, looking at theism and saying “no reason to believe that”. Atheists as a group do not put up a counter-claim, offer another explanation, or even support existing explanations. That being said, whomever wrote that has no right to insult atheists because THEY LITERALLY DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT ATHEISM IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2) Does theism ultimately make any more sense? (It would go something like this): “Theism: The belief that there was once absolutely nothing. And nothing happened to nothing until the nothing magically became something (because some guy said so), then the guy (somehow) magically made the something become everything and everywhere. Then the something magically rearranged itself (because the guy said so) into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.”
3) Atheists don’t mock your beliefs, they merely resist when self-centered, disrespectful, and rude theists (look at the title of this page for proof) try to force their beliefs on them.
4) Atheist discrimination. Believe it or not, atheists receive more discrimination then any other minority group (even gays). That’s right, just look at the number of atheists currently in the U.S. Congress versus the number of LGBT Americans in the U.S. Congress. There are 7 LGBT senators and representatives (currently) and there is only 1 atheist representative. That’s right, the supposedly most discriminated group in America is apparently 7 times more preferable than atheists. Not to mention, it is currently illegal for atheists to take any kind of public office in 7 states (Maryland, Arkansas, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas)! People, it’s 2015! The Bill of Rights has been around for 226 years, surely SOMEONE has read it by now?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Wow. It’s like you guys never even try.
With only a modicum of hyperbole let me say that this is probably the thousandth time I’ve heard the bald line… seriously, the loons at the Westboro Baptist Church do not cling to the Bible the way atheists cling to that stupid bald line…and it’s just as stupid as ever. See argument 5 on this page as to why that argument is so inane https://conservativenewager.com/2013/02/03/fairies-teapots-turtles-and-other-such-atheistic-nonsense/
“No two atheists believe the same thing.” Really? I guarantee you I can get any number of atheists together they all agree there is no God. They all agree there is no soul.
“. Atheism is, simply put, looking at theism and saying “no reason to believe that”.” Yeah just deny science and logic. And you wonder why I think your bunch is so clueless…of course that was the argument of the article this picture was attached to (https://conservativenewager.com/2012/12/23/philosophy-basics-for-atheists-i-e-morons/) …but why take on an argument when you can insult a simple picture. It’s much more in line with your level of thought.
” Atheists as a group do not put up a counter-claim” Really the big bang and the multiverse that’s not you? You should let your atheist brethren know that.
“whomever wrote that has no right to insult atheists” Ah, I see the fascist there. Whoever made the picture has every right to make and I have every right to repeat it. It’s called free speech. Look it up. I have the right to insult anyone. And I have the moral responsibility to that stupidity is just that. And atheism is quite dumb.
“2) Does theism ultimately make any more sense? ” Again you didn’t even bother to read the article…was more than a couple sentences above your reading quota for the day?
““Theism: The belief that there was once absolutely nothing.” Ugh…no I tend to find that most religions start with God, which is certainly something.
“3) Atheists don’t mock your beliefs, ” You just did in point 2.
” they merely resist when self-centered, disrespectful, and rude” looking in a mirror while writing that weren’t you?
” they merely resist when self-centered, disrespectful, and rude “Stating a fact can be rude, but it doesn’t make it less of a fact.
“try to force their beliefs on them.” Did I come to your page and mock you? No. You came to my page and insulted with and then spouted mindless drivel. You have every right to be a moron, and I wasn’t out to bother you in particular. If something offends you, tough shit, that’s life.
“. Believe it or not, atheists receive more discrimination then any other minority group (even gays).” Well that’s a flaming pile of horse shit. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2013/topic-pages/victims/victims_final
Of the 1,223 victims of anti-religious hate crimes:
60.3 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Jewish bias.
13.7 percent were victims of anti-Islamic (Muslim) bias.
6.1 percent were victims of anti-Catholic bias.
4.3 percent were victims of bias against groups of individuals of varying religions (anti-multiple religions, group).
3.8 percent were victims of anti-Protestant bias.
0.6 percent were victims of anti-Atheist/Agnostic bias.
11.2 percent were victims of bias against other religions (anti-other religion). (Based on Table 1.)
Also according to the same page there were about 73 victims of atheist hate crimes in 2013 and about 1400 victims of anti-LBGT bias. Now I know atheists have a hard time with facts…but 1400 is MORE than 73.
“ill of Rights has been around for 226 years, surely SOMEONE has read it by now” Maybe you could try when you say people have no right to insult you?
No run along little dimwit we all have better things to do than listen to your idiocy.
His line of thinking is no less valid than yours, the concept of god cannot be backed because we in this modern era have no proof, on the other hand we cannot prove the big bang or the multitude of various other theorem that surround our creation. My question is, why can’t people just let go of trying to argue a point that can’t be disputed or proved? Personally I believe it is our nature as man to always try and have the ” correct” answers to life’s greater questions, when it is very likely that no matter what we do, we will never have a concrete answer. It is people that throttle their opinions of the subject on others that create wars, cultural disputes and elitism in the human race, so ill ask both of you, is knowing the answer to this question going to benefit you, is it going to save lives? in short NO it won’t do anything for anyone and is a pointless discussion
“His line of thinking is no less valid than yours, ” Are you serious? And if so are you on drugs? Even compared to the statements of most atheists, the original commenter’s statement wasn’t remotely valid or sane?
“the concept of god cannot be backed because we in this modern era have no proof,” you’re right no proof, no proof whatsoever…you know beside the logic of the need for a cause. Because if you actually understood logic, physics and the argument from proof you’d see that logic provides all the proof you need to know that God does exist. Logic may not tell me what vision of God is correct, but it does tell me that God does exist.
Further his ideas are certainly less valid than mine even if you discount the idea that logic does prove beyond the shadow of all doubt (at least for people with a working brain) that God does exist. The ideas of every atheist are completely invalid bullshit because it 1. claims faith is wrong and 2. claims that there is no God based on nothing but faith. That kind of gross hypocrisy and illogic makes any idea from an atheist extremely less valid than mine.
“My question is, why can’t people just let go of trying to argue a point that can’t be disputed or proved?” Well despite the fact that it can be proven, why is it important? You seriously don’t know much about actually philosophy, do you? Because whether there is a God or not radically effects issues of metaphysics, epistemology, teleology, and free will. Logically all philosophy sinks in nihilism without a God and life loses meaning. That’s kind of an important point.
“It is people that throttle their opinions of the subject on others that create wars,” So you don’t know much about philosophy OR history as it is atheism that is the bloodiest and most genocidal religion of all time. Whenever a society embraces atheism or even the extreme agnosticism you’re suggesting, expect massive suffering to follow.
“we will never have a concrete answer.” Again, say it with me, logic does provide an answer. You’re just saying we will never have an answer doesn’t make it so.
“is knowing the answer to this question going to benefit you, is it going to save lives?” Yes it will give meaning to life, that’s a bit of a benefit, don’t you think? And given how many advancements made by Jesuits and other religious scientists (who will often list their desire to understand God’s work as the drive for their work) I would assume that you can attribute a lot of saved lives to those innovations caused by faith, just a thought. But if you don’t like pasteurized milk, please tell me that religion never did anything.
” in short NO it won’t do anything for anyone and is a pointless discussion” Yes pointless. Without a belief in God, life has no meaning, society degenerates into bloodshed, and science makes much less progress. Yes pointless, indeed.
It is much much more complicated than that. If you take the time to learn all of the physics of the Big Bang then it makes sense. Of course you won’t do that. There’s no such thing as physics to you, is there. When you drop something it isn’t gravity making it fall, it’s “gods will”. There’s no such thing as a core to the earth, it’s just soil and rock all the way through. That’s how much sense any argument you could scrape off the bottom of your boot makes. If you would avoid shitposting then you wouldn’t look like such a colossal moron. It seems you don’t mind having that view from the public because you think that you can debunk anything anybody says with a centuries old book written by a bunch of horny old men in robes.
Wow. Just wow. The idiocy of everything there. Let’s start with the obvious.
“because you think that you can debunk anything anybody says with a centuries old book written by a bunch of horny old men in robes.” One can only assume you mean the Bible. Ignoring your infantile
comment about the writers of Bible being a bunch of “horny old men” (because why debate the merits of the Bible when you throw off a cheap shot and imply it was written by sexual perverts), the utter cluelessness of the comment really is informative about how intelligent you are. Specifically I’m referring to the intelligence that missed the title “conservative NEW AGER” and the book cover in the background that reads “republicans AND REINCARNATION: the conscience of a NEW AGE conservative.” It’s really helpful that you felt that a stock comment against Christians was appropriate against a New Ager who doesn’t actually believe wholesale in the Bible. Good call. It really shows you have the usual understanding of religion that I find most Atheists have, i.e. none.
One could say of even this flaw, “If you would avoid shitposting then you wouldn’t look like such a colossal moron.” But, you know what, you’re atheist even without your arrogant, how did you put it? shiposting, you’d still be a “colossal moron”
Then of course let’s deal with the fact that you commented on a picture that is on a blog and either through intellectual laziness, intentional ignorance, or just being too stupid to realize that the picture was probably attached to an actual blog post, felt confident in commenting on the picture. The irony of course is that despite your statement “ If you take the time to learn all of the physics of the Big Bang then it makes sense” suggesting that knowledge of the Big Bang would lead someone to believe there was no God. To quote you “It is much much more complicated than that.” primarily because this was attached to an article showing how knowledge of the Big Bang and thermodynamics more or less proves there is a God—but that would have required you to use even a modicum of intelligence to go see what article the picture was attached to…but I understand people of you intellect ask why read when you can look at pictures https://conservativenewager.com/2014/04/17/atheists-continue-to-be-very-stupid/ . You could go read the article but “ Of course you won’t do that.”
“There’s no such thing as physics to you, is there.” Wow, even for an atheist that’s fucking dumb. Especially when the picture is pointing out that the Atheist version of the Big Bang more or less violates the first law of thermodynamics (energy/matter cannot be created or destroyed only change form).
“When you drop something it isn’t gravity making it fall, it’s “gods will”.” Okay, technically that is what Islam argues. But I’m a New Ager, and from your post you seem to be attacking Christianity (don’t try and claim you were attacking Islam, you said “horny old men” not man, “men” the plural excludes Islam which was written by one guy). Christianity as far as I know doesn’t hold an idea that stupid…what with the Big Bang being an idea of a Christian scientists who wanted to prove that God did actually create the universe.
“There’s no such thing as a core to the earth, it’s just soil and rock all the way through.” I’ve never heard anyone claim that…and if you’re going to make up straw men arguments, have least have some literary presence and reference Dante. But that would have required you to open a book at some point.
“That’s how much sense any argument you could scrape off the bottom of your boot makes. “ Perhaps you have heard the tale of the pot and the kettle.
An old white man came out of bfe and “created” a Fucking universe and got a bitch pregnant without using his Dick and his son is the “savior” but we still got kids starving and dying in other countries, racism, war, transgender fucks, murder shall I fucking go on.
Please don’t. By using an argument that would only even vaguely apply to a Christian (not that it’s in any way a valid argument) you’ve already proved my point that atheists ARE COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOTS. Read the name of the blog: Conservative NEW AGER. New Age, as in Pagan. Blithering idiot. Even worse is that I’ve already dealt with this in the comments before you, which were clearly well above your reading and comprehension levels, to say nothing of the actual blog this single picture was tied to. No, you do not need to go on, you have proven the intellectual shallowness of atheists very well.
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