Some thoughts about taxes.

April is almost here. And with it comes April 15th which means two things…Atlas Shrugged is hitting theaters! (YAY!) and tax day (Boo!). And unless we remember the lessons of our cultural heritage the American Revolution and Robin Hood that means we will have to turn over money to those thieves known as the IRS agents. Which brings to mind some musing on recent events in tax policy… So apparently G.E. (also known as the other campaign contributor who Barrack shares a bed with more often than he does with Michelle) earned about $14 Billion in Profit (that’s right, that’s after they paid all they’re bills) and $5 Billion here in the U.S. alone. (One does wonder how much of that was earned on building faulty nuclear reactors.) And anyone want to guess how much their corporate tax bill was? A billion? No. Half a Billion? No. A million? No. … … … A thousand dollars? Nope. It was NOTHING. Absolutely nothing! Now I don’t support corporate taxes, I think they’re a form of double taxation, a hindrance on economic growth, a form of creeping socialism and destroys more money than they collect. That being said, if you’re going to have a tax then everyone has to pay it, otherwise exempting some people will give business with connections in politics advantages over businesses that don’t have said connections and worry about things like the quality of their product. Some would call this crony capitalism. But it’s not. Crony socialism might be a better word for it. Especially when you consider so much of that money that GE saved will go to help elect more uber-liberal politicians who will 1.) Give GE more breaks and 2). Screw the rest over with higher taxes and more government. (Why is it I’m becoming more convinced that it would be easier to make a RICO case against the DNC than against La Cosa Nostra?… oh probably because the mafia is no where near as corrupt, given that another big Dem contributor, SEIU, is actually in a RICO case right now.) Clearly with GE in mind two things need to be done. EVERY SINGLE TAX LOOPHOLE NEEDS TO STRIPPED FROM THE SYSTEM! All of them. No exceptions. And then we need to lower the rate. And then there is this story. Arizona is moving to a flat tax with no loopholes for personal income tax. (Sometimes I remember why I love living in this state.) This will mean more tax dollars for a lot of people…however, this will be an easier system and the benefit is that it is likely to draw in far more people with money and who make money thus guaranteeing an improved economy for the entire state, which means more money even for those having to shell out more to the state government. (And last time I checked my state taxes are deductable off my federal taxes, so I will actually not be paying a single cent more than I usually would). The state gets a better tax base, and more money from the current base, fixes funding problems (maybe they might even have enough money to deport illegals and help fund charter schools at the same per student level of those crappy public schools). I fail to see a problem here.

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5 responses to “Some thoughts about taxes.

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  2. If we relied on Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, that would render the income tax as null and void.

    • Well except that Article V, which is just as much of the Constitution as Article I, allows for amendments, and thus the 16th Amendment which allows for income tax is as valid an overrides the limits in I.8…so no, it is not null and void. You can’t take the parts of the Constitution you like and discard what’s unpleasant. If you want to amend it again, that is an option, but you I don’t think you’re going to get anywhere with that in the immediate future and I feel any rational efforts would be better spent moving toward a flat tax.

  3. What about the 5th, 13th and 14th Amendments? One of the lines in the text of the 5th Amendment says no American shall be deprived of life, liberty or property. Since our labor is by definition our property, that should delegitimize the existence of the income tax. the 13th Amendment prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude, which is contradicted by the illegitimate enactment of the income tax, which some states never legally ratified. The 14th Amendment guarantees equal protection under the law. The progressive income tax violates the concept of equality. People who claim to advocate equality and yet want to maintain the progressive income tax are hypocrites.

    • Wow, Constitutional Law just utterly eludes you doesn’t it?
      First, before we get to the fact that almost every point you have is absolutely wrong, even if there were contradictions between the 16th Amendment and the 5th, 13th, and 14th Amendment (which there isn’t), but even if there were , then guess what the 16th Amendment as the most recent Amendment would trump those.
      “illegal enactment of the income tax which some states never legally ratified” True I do not believe all the states ratified it, but strange enough three-quarters of the states did and thus it became a Constitutional Amendment! Because the Constitution only requires three-quarters of the states to ratify something, not all of them, something you would know if you ever actually bothered to read it for understanding rather than to justify your beliefs.
      “the 5th Amendment says no America shall be deprived of life, liberty or property” Without due process of law. You forgot the words WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW. You can lose your life, liberty or property with DUE PROCESS OF LAW. It’s why the 5th Amendment then goes into giving the government authority for Eminent Domain where it can take your property. Passing an Amendment to tax income and then passing laws under that authority, and then collecting according to the rules of those law is very much DUE PROCESS OF LAW. Just because it’s bad law does not mean it is not constitutional or law. There are lots of bad laws that are constitutional. Just because you dislike, or even because it is wrong, doesn’t mean it’s unconstitutional.
      The 13th Amendment thing is just ridiculous. The entire Constitution was set up because the Articles of Confederation had made it impossible to collect taxes. You can’t argue one form of taxation is slavery but another (as with the original form in Article 1 Section 8 isn’t). Either taxation is slavery in which case all government is slavery in which case you’re arguing to destroy the Constitution, or you admit that some taxation is a necessary evil to maintain liberty…which it is. Now you could argue that excessive taxation or taxation without due process of law could be slavery, but nothing we have now reaches that point.
      Now you might have a theoretical argument that progressive income tax violates the 14th Amendment, I will concede. But again, as I said you could try to get the 16th Amendment overturned, it would be just as difficult to stack the Supreme Court so that they would agree with you on this. Thus simply pushing for a flat tax via law remains the most viable option (especially since your knowledge of the Constitution is so faulty you would be more of detriment to any push to show the progressive income is a constitutional violation).

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