Did Obama or Loki say that?

So I went to a midnight showing of The Avengers last night (I will get a glowing review out, but I need to see it at least once more before I do so).   Great movie!  Witty, fun, moving…Joss Whedon at his best.  Not that this stopped the snobs at the New York Times from not too subtely suggesting that Loki’s evil is preposterous and ridiculous overblown character (despite the very valid comparison Whedon makes between Loki and every tyranny in history.  “There are always men like you.” Although even I will admit it’s hard nailing down Whedon’s politics from his shows–you have the liberal conception of the evil corporation in Angel and Dollhouse but a hyper libertarianism in Firefly with that individualism only slightly toned down in Buffy). It also seem to suggest that the only real sheeple out there are the people who could enjoy a movie like The Avengers (I’m sure it’s the not to0 thin layer of patriotism throughout the movie that most offened the hacks over at the Times). But I realized that the New York Times movie review find this character overblown…because to admit that such rhetoric was the rhetoric of tyrants and petty dictators throughout history would mean that they might have to actually look to see if there were any modern politicians who might be saying similar things. Loki says he comes to free people from that burdonsom chore of freedom, which sadly there are people who would actually applaud that being forced on society.

So, to show you that Loki’s quotes aren’t that overblown (although much better written as Whedon was behind them) let’s compare Loki to a modern day politician…oh, let’s say…Obama.

Guess who said each line.

On Goals:

 I come with glad tidings, of a world made free [from] Freedom.

 “The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more.”

On being an individual:

Is not this simpler? Is this not your natural state? It’s the unspoken truth of humanity, that you crave subjugation. The bright lure of freedom diminishes your life’s joy in a mad scramble for power, for identity.

“Because our individual salvation depends on collective salvation.”

On your friends:

I have an army!

“I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.”

On respect for individualism:

You were made to be ruled. In the end, you will always kneel.

“History is scattered with the stories of those who held fast to rigid ideologies and refused to listen to those who disagreed. But those are not the Americans we remember.”

On understanding the nature of liberty:

Freedom is life’s great lie. Once you accept that, in your heart…You will know peace.

And so we must realize that the freedoms FDR once spoke of – especially freedom from want and freedom from fear – do not just come from deposing a tyrant and handing out ballots; they are only realized once the personal and material security of a people is ensured as well.

On understanding you’re being superior to those around you and that the sheeple need to be ruled:

There are no men like me.

“I am my brother’s keeper, I am my sister’s keeper — that’s a value.”

On humility:

I am burdened with glorious purpose.

“When I struggle, I just think of Jesus’ agony in the garden.”

On underestimating their opponents:

“If some of these folks were around when Columbus set sail — they must have been founding members of the Flat-Earth Society. They would not have believed that the world was round.”

How desperate are you? You call on these lost creatures to defend you.

On understanding your value as person:

“[He] has brought us out of the dark and into the light”

“ENOUGH! You are, all of you, beneath me. I am a god you dull creature, and I will not be bullied”

The good news to all of this is we’re not stuck with Barry forever.  What does Obama have to fear?  Let’s do a headcount.  You have the impassioned crusader, Darrell Issa.  You the economic and budget genius, Paul Ryan.  You have the rising star, Marco Rubio.  You have the next President of the United States, Mitt Romney.  And you have the entire thinking portion of the American public.  And Obama has managed to piss off all of them.

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10 responses to “Did Obama or Loki say that?

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  3. Rich Larsen

    I am glad to see that I am not the only one that thought this. We just saw it last night and from the start of the show I thought it was parallel in every which way to our current situation. I don’t see Romney doing quite the same to Oh-bummer that the Hulk to to Loki, but I’d pay to see it if he did,

    • Thank you.
      Although I don’t see Romney as the Hulk as you suggest. I see Mitt more as Captain America…maybe Chris Christie as the Hulk…

  4. Anda

    Actually, if trying to compare Avengers to current political developments, I always end up thinking of Obama as the equivalent of Nick Fury, a guy trying to form people into a team that supports each other.

    Romney, on the other hand, always ends up as Loki: a spoiled brat who wants to rule, but has not one wit of compassion and only ever thinks of himself.

    • Where are you getting your information? (More accurately as your email address suggests Germany, I have to ask how horribly biased is the German press?) Obama has to be the most intentionally divisive politician in recent American history, purposefully trying to drive people apart on the grounds of income, race, gender, sexuality and a whole host of other criteria…and all for the single goal of self aggrandizement. When he doesn’t get his way he pouts and blames others and now that it is becoming clear that he won’t win he’s just phoning it in and letting the world burn. In word and deed he is the most despicable form of politician. And to call Romney spoiled brat just leaves me stunned…could you please tell me one thing about Romney’s actions that lead you to believe this, as everything I have seen about this man (http://conservativenewager.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/romney-the-man-of-near-infinite-empathy-and-compassion/) shows a human being of massive compassion and generosity.

      • Oh, FYI, I’ve started a no-insanity rule on the posts I let through. If you’re going to try and respond with libel or bullshit that’s already been debunked…don’t expect me to let it through or dignify it with a comment.

      • Beth Ann Wells

        Thank you. I’m sorry I’m replying to your comment on another comment, with my comment – but I think what you said is correct and I wasn’t going to say anything because I knew I’d get chewed up and spat out…thank you. Obama is (to me) exactly how you phrased him, and you always have to start with praising all he has done thus far before it is “ok” to ever criticize him. It’s like one always has to look at all the good he has done and really attribute it before you can get down to cases and say: yea, he’s not helping the economy and all that stuff we forgot while we were busy making fun of Romney and his goody two shoes religion. Sheesh.

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